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Is it possible to change the date format?
Example: 11/09/2008 12:38 is potentially confusing to non-US readers - who'll need to think whether that 11 is November or September.
In the listing, the date shows as 11 Sept, so surely it'd not be difficult.
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Can you tell me where you are seeing this? In NewsGator Online, the dates are in the format MMM-DD-YYYY. E.g. Sep-21-2008
Jonathon McDougall
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Oooooops!
I'll now hang my head and shame and slide out the back door... for not being sufficiently alert to have posted in the correct (NetNewsWire) forum.
I get days like this. ;-) ;-(
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OK, Now we are in the right forum, the question still remains - where in NNW 
Are you using the combined view, or tradtional/widescreen view? If you are using traditional or widescreen then the style defines the date format in the CSS. You can either pick a style with a date format you like, create your own style, or modify an existing one.
If that's a little beyond what you are comfortable doing, you can always request something frmo the Styles and NewsPapers Forum.
Taking a quick look at the combined view, it appears to use a three-letter month so I assume that's not where the problem is...
Hope that helps!
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Thanks.
Using traditional view, in the (upper) listing pane the date format is 22 Sep 2008 and below when reading (preview?) is 22/09/2008.
It's the same in the combined view - so I'm wondering if that latter (22/09/2008) occurrence is directly from the feed, whereas NNW somehow rejigs it (to 22 Sep 2008) for the listing.
It may seem a small point, and of course 22/09 isn't easily mistaken - certainly not as much as something like 05/09, where my brain has to do a mental 'Is that May 9, or Sept 5' (or look upward).
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Actually, looking a little further, the date format is based on your computer system settings. Go to:
System Preferences > Date and Time > Open International > Formats > Customize
That will allow you to change how they appear.
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Jonathon McDougall (9/23/2008)
Actually, looking a little further, the date format is based on your computer system settings. Go to:
System Preferences > Date and Time > Open International > Formats > Customize
That will allow you to change how they appear.
Thanks.
I appreciate your above-and-beyond attention and help.
And genuinely not wishing to labor the point, I'm thinking I was initially mistaken.
After checking my date formats, I couldn't see any change.
(My short->medium->long->full formats are 23/9/08; Sep 23 2008; September 23 2008; Tuesday September 23 2008.)
My NNW upper 'listing' pane still displays the title with a 23 Sep date format alongside.
And the lower 'read' pane displays the source of the feed and a 23/9/08 12:38 date format alongside.
It'd be 'nice' to have 23 Sep display as Sep 23 - but it's hardly a major issue.
And on the 23/9/08 12:38... I don't seem to have an issue with that format in Thunderbird, where I mentally and without problem note it as 'twenty-third of the ninth'), so it looks like I was just being dumb or mistaken.
Having re-looked at Movable Type, with their Entry Date format of YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS, it's likely that which triggered my 'sort the dates, so there's no confusion' action.
It's their format of 2008-09-23 11:38:40 which causes the confusion... and more so when the day number is 12 or less. To non-Americans 2008-09-10 11:38:40 requires the mental calculation of 'is that September 10, or November 9?'.
Whatever. ;-)
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gulliver (9/23/2008)
To non-Americans 2008-09-10 11:38:40 requires the mental calculation of 'is that September 10, or November 9?'.
Off Topic: when you see a date like that, you need to forget country conventions and think like a geek. That is a variation on the ISO standard date format; specifically designed to make sorting easy by putting the digits in order from fastest-changing to slowest-changing (this means you can use a very fast, and very simple, numeric sort).
I'm Australian, but 20080910 is always 10th September because I'm a programmer 
Please note that I am not actually employed by NewsGator, and my opinions should not be taken as their official stance on any matter. I'm just a happy FD user (since pre-1.0 alpha in 2003) helping out where I can.
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Good point.
It's not 2008-09-10 11:38:40 itself that's the cause of the uncertainty, as with the year preface the whole ISO thing comes easier to mind.
The real confusion is when dates are written without a year, or the year is a suffix - 09-10-2008 is a problem because in the US it'll be Sep 10, 2008 and Europe/elsewhere Oct 9, 2008.
As dates usually aren't written in the ISO format, when seeing stuff which is ISO format, a common habit is to use the 'whatever you normally do' bit of the brain and just stick a year in front of it - hence, the wrong day and month confusion.
My wife's from the US - and it causes all sorts of non-fun issues.
Most of the time it's not a massive problem - but when tired/careless, things go awry.
Having thought more about this issue, the whole ISO/RFC format is logical and good.
Back to the NNW listing... the DD MMM format in my listing pane appears at odds with the US MM-DD form and doesn't appear to be influenced by the setting of the machine on which it's running.
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