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Posted 11/23/2005 1:53:33 AM
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I'm using NNWL 2.0.1 and I'm having problems with several feeds which monitor Wikis. The problem here is that the subject of the RSS entry shows the title of the wiki page which changed, therefore it happens quite often that the same title appears in the feed but the date was updated, because someone changed the page. If this happens, the dc:date-tag is newer than the previous one but NNWL doesn't show the entry as new, which is quite annoying.

I hope my description is understandable. Is this a bug or does NNWL look on other date tags to decide whether an entry is new?
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Posted 11/28/2005 5:40:43 PM
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What are the URLs of some of these feeds?

NetNewsWire doesn't look at the date so much as the actual content -- title and description -- to see if an item has changed.
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Posted 11/29/2005 6:32:56 AM
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The Feeds generated by some wiki sites show this problem. From what I've seen oddmuse and PMWiki. I found some information on that subject here http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/003812.html. As my own feeds are to private Wikis I can't post them here but I've found another feed which should show the same problem: http://wiki.chongqed.org/?action=rss
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Posted 11/29/2005 5:54:26 PM
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I think Jeremy is right on. With so little information in the feed it's not surprising that the experience is less-than-optimal in NetNewsWire. (It would be less-than-optimal in any newsreader, I suspect.)
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Posted 11/30/2005 12:20:05 AM
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You're right that RSS-Feeds from Wiki-Sites are less then optimal in the moment. I still wonder why you don't honor the date tag of an item if it is present. I can also think of updated blog-entries which haven't changed their title (and their description) but update the date to show that the actual content has changed. This pretty much also applies to Wikis.
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Posted 11/30/2005 11:33:33 AM
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NetNewsWire looks at the title, description, and link to see if an item has changed or is new. If the date is updated, but the item is otherwise unchanged, it doesn't mark it as unread.
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Posted 11/30/2005 3:40:30 PM
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I don't really see the reason for this behaviour but if you think this gives a better user experience or whatever...
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Posted 12/1/2005 9:50:51 AM
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The reason is that most people complain about news items showing up again that they've already read. So NetNewsWire doesn't trust the date -- it looks to see if the contents of the item are actually different.
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